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believe there were 45 jokes better than that. >> really. >> a stuner like that, i don't understand it. >> back to you. >> thank you, andy. thank you mary smith, bill shultz, bill crystal. that does it for me. see you next time. america. >> bret: while world powers chart their next moves in libya, rebels give up ground to gaddafi forces. serious cabinet resigns but will it pacify demonstrators there? and justice department is getting heat for suing on behalf of a school teacher who wanted three weeks off for a religious event in the school year. live from our studio in washington, this is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. pentagon officials say so far the u.s. spent $580 million on the libyan conflict. while we're committed to the operation financially, militarily and diplomatically, questions remain about what it will mean to deem the mission
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a success. james rosen is at the state department. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. president obama and top commanderrers pushed forward on the parallel and separate path to strip muammar gaddafi of his ability to wage war and pressuring him to resign. today a top nato commander said the missions may connect over time in london, secretary of state hillary clinton met with colleagues from the united nations, europe and arab league to sketch out end game in libya. clinton said arming the libyan rebels were not discussed and only vaguely did she address growing speculation that gaddafi will receive asylum. >> we believe he must go. we're working with the international community to try to achieve that outcome. and look for political resolution which could include leaving the country. >> bret: we are not engaged and look for him to go doesn't exclude others doing so.
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>> gaddafi forces managed to repel attacks on the hometown of sirte. but they fired off 22 more missiles and threw strikes at the other nations that are conducting the bilk of the missions. the nato supreme commander acknowledged not all going to great lengths to help are great supports of the western values. >> we have seen flickers in intelligence of the potential al-qaeda, hezbollah. we have seen different things. at this point, i don't have detail sufficient to say that there is a significant al-qaeda presence, or any other terrorist presence in and among the folks. >> secretary clinton disagreed at least about the rebel leaders. >> we do not have any specific information about specific
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individuals from any organization part of this. >> while the u.n. ambassador susan wright speaking to jenna lee agreed with the nato commanderrer assessment of the intelligence. >> i like to think i'm reading the same stuff and know. we can't rule out the possibility that extremists elements could filter in to any segment of libyan society. >> reporter: one day after president obama used televised address to explain the goal and tactic of libya, vice president biden spoke in decidedly more cryptic tones when a fox news producer asked him what the end game in libya will look like. >> the end game is ending right now. >> reporter: the vice president's office later said that mr. biden was suggesting that the photoop was coming to an end. the pentagon provided its first estimate of what the u.s. operation in libya are costing saying the tab so far runs to $550 million, not counting the downed f-15
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fighter plane which itself cost $31 million. the defense department placed the cost going forward at $40 million per month. so clearly, bret, none of this comes cheaply. >> bret: james rosen live at the state department. thank you. world powers agreed to consider additional sanctions against gaddafi's regime but did not discuss arming the rebels. seeking to remove him from power. senior correspondent rick leventhal who spent three weeks on the ground in libya explains why the rebels could use all the help they can get right now. >> a massive retreat from the front lines. hundreds of cars and trucks full of opposition fighters packing the highway heading east to ras lanouf, away from the advancing gaddafi forces who have been hitting the rebels with rockets and sniper fire. the men are complaining about the lack of air support losing ground from the weekend. >> we are advancing and retreatingtreating this man say.
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"gaddafi still has heavy weapons. we only have small arms." did you move forward too fast? the fighter says no, but he says gaddafi's men are using locals as human shields so the rebels can't assault troops in the towns. fuel is also becoming a problem. in a country rich with oil, many gas stations are closed. the ones that are open have long lines. some people are so desperate they're fishing full by the cupful from a storage tank on the ground, using poles and plastic tubes. gas is normally 10 cents a leader here. the stations that have it are giving it away. most of the pumps aren't working because there is no power they hooked up a generator to this one. rest of the fuel is cranked out by hand. >> rebels and gun trucks don't wait in line but the supplies
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are limited. the battle is far from over. >> bret: syria's cab net resigned today. but protesters may not be satisfied until bashar assad steps down. >> reporter: taking a tam tick from antigovernment protesters, syrian president john shadegg gathers thousands of supporters to rally his cause as the announcement was made that the cabinet would resign. it won't be enough to quiet protesters who want reform, freedom and for the regime to fall. desperate to get the message across, they posted messages on this one like facebook and twitter and they got support from the become bam administration. >> we deplore the crackdown that is occurring in syria.
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we call on syria, as we have throughout the last month to respect rights of the citizens and allow people to protest peacefully. to work to political and economic reform to be to the benefit of the syrian people. >> there are reasons why assad will hang on to partner longer than the counterpart. syrian tv ran images of the leaders in the arab world who publicly called for him to stay, including saudi arabia's king and abdullah. they lost a key ally when egyptian president hosni mubarak was forced out of power. in egypt, protesters managed to outdo the police by outnumbering them. the army did not intervene. but security forces are loyal to assad and successfully crack down on protests. damascus is still a stronghold
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and the opposition has not gathered substantial crowds. for the past few nights, syrian state tv said assad is prepared to deliver a speech. every night they have been disappointed, it could be because every time an acrannian leader tried to deliver a speech it's been the countdown to end of their regime. >> bret: reena, thank you. opposition groups in yemen today blame president ali abdullah saleh for the presence of militants there, including al-qaeda. protesters are still demanding that saleh end his 32-year rule. meantime, bahrain's president, rather parliament, accepted the resignations of 11 lawmakers from the shiite opposition. a sign that the political crisis there is deepening. and a hamas delegation visiting egypt for the first time since president hosni mubarak was ousted last month says their hope is egypt's new rulers will have a different policy toward gaza and permanently reopen a key border crossing.
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gunmen stormed headquarters in tikrit today. 56 people are dead after the gunman took hostages, killed them execution style and blew themselves up. the militants were wearing a rockie military uniform. officials are blaming al-qaeda for the attack. new jersey democratic senator robert menendez in the u.s. is criticizing former president jimmy carter for his visit to cuba. menendez says carter's visit seems to suggest improved relations are contingent on some action by the united states. "that is the wrong message at the wrong time and in the wrong place." human being human being human being wins a journalism award after sigh -- hugo chavez wins journalism award after silencing much of the press in his own country. that's ahead in the grapevine. but first, top democrat reveals strategy regarding the looming government shutdown by mistake.
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>> bret: this is a fox news alert. a wisconsin judge ruled there would be no further implementation of the law which severely limited collective bargaining rights for temporary employees. republican governor scott walker and the department of administration in wisconsin had already begun implementation and started efforts for payroll deduction according to the new law passed in wisconsin. democrats see this order as a victory. the law was passed on march 9. but was blocked by an injunction on march 18. home prices have fallen in 19 of 20 major cities across the country. the standard and poors case-shiller index shows only the homes in the nation capital experienced a price hike from december to january. federal regulators want to exempt certain mortgages from new rules aimed to get banks to take on more risk when they packal and sell mortgage investment. the fdic and the federal reserve voted to advance that move. the conference board says the concerns over rising food and gasoline prices have this
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month pushed consumer confidence down. stocks were up today. the dow gained 81. the s&p 500 added nine. the nasdaq finished ahead 26. prices at the pump are up slightly. the national average is $3.59 a gallon. the april 8 deadline when funding for the federal government runs out, is fast approaching. and some lawmakers say they will not support another short-term funding bill. chief political correspondent carl cameron reports on the growing likelihood of a government shutdown. >> with report members of congress posting web pages like countdown to the accusing democrats of refusing to negotiate, new york democratic senator chuck schumer was caught on tape before a conference call with reporters urging fellow democrats to blame the tea party wing of the g.o.p.
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>> then the mike went dead. >> republicans need to decide which is worse, angering the tea party base or shutting down the republicans. >> republicans pounced on schumer and reid's political tactics. >> today we did find out that chuck schumer is intent on playing political games. >> obviously, extremely revealing that senate democrats instructed their members to use extreme language. >> instead of them issuing marching orders, maybe what they should do is get to work and actually pass a plan. >> the g.o.p. plan all along has been to pass the $61 billion in cut to current spending approved by the house. >> we are living in a fantasy world if we don't think we can cut $61 billion from this
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budget. >> since congress has already cut $10 billion from the current spending, republicans now want the next continuing resolution or c.r. to cut an additional $51 billion for balance of the year. democrats counteroffer smaller and unspecified cuts of $21 billion. schumer today claimed falsely that the g.o.p. leaders agreed to a deal last week but reneged when the tea partyers deemed it insufficient. >> the speaker faces a choice. return to the deal he was prepared to accept before the tea party rebelled last week or risk a shutdown on april 8. >> not true said republicans who dismiss schumer's suggestion of deal last week as a fairy tale. >> nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to. >> especially ras want spending limits included on social programs like planned parenthood and healthcare reform, which democrats adamantly oppose. further fanning the shutdown flames today, house republican leader can't cantor declared
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there would be no more extensions, or blame for a shutdown would rest with democrats who were supposed to have passed a budget last september. >> bret: we'll watch it, carl. thank you. french president nicolas sarkozy will travel to japan on behalf of the g-20 group of nations to offer support after that country's earthquake, tsunami and nuclear crisis. japan's government today vowed to overhaul the safety standards once its radiation-leaking nuclear complex is under control. admitting safeguards were insufficient to protect against the march 11 tsunami. the death toll there in japan now, tops 10,000. amid the tragedy in japan, one possible financial winner here in the u.s. in the aftermath of all of that is pennsylvania's coal industry. correspondent molly line looks at the local benefit to a population that's increasingly nervous about nuclear power. >> governments around the globe re-evaluate the safety of the nuclear power in the wake of the fukushima disaster, u.s. coal interests
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are going for broke. increasing demand in the world market. >> coal is here to stay. we can find different ways to use it but it's in our own united states. easy to get to. accessible and can be used for all type of energy. >> this is one of the largest suppliers of coal in the u.s. asia, south america and europe. the daily mine complex in southwestern pennsylvania is the biggest underground coal facility in the nation. >> we're currently producing roughly 60 million-tons annually in 2014, with the new coal mine coming online we expect that to increase to about 65, 66 million. we looking for 15 to 20 million-tons of export capacity. >> according to the u.s. energy administration, in 2010, the united states produced 800 million-tons of coal. exports 61 million-tons. that's about 7.5% of total production.
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analysts predict u.s. coal experts will grow by 10 to 15 million-tons in coming year. this as japan struggles to rebuild and relies more on oil, natural gas and coal. >> they will turn to their traditional suppliers like the indonesian and australians for some of the coal needs. over time, as not only japan's coal demand increases but also asian countries coal increases, there will be a place for u.s. coal in the markets. >> even if u.s. coal suppliers project gains they see increasing environmental regulations by the obama administration, which revoked mining purposes in west virginia and kentucky and granting expansion. >> the coal jobs are red, white and blue jobs. >> industry insiders press for bigger output, the national mining association estimates 50,000 new coal miners will be needed to meet increase demand and replace retiring miners in the coming years. in pennsylvania, molly line, fox news. >> bret: in a report obtained by the "associated press," the interior
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department says more than two-third of offshore drilling leases in the gulf of mexico are sitting idle. producing neither oil nor gas. and are not being explored. the memo says the area could potentially hold $11 billion-barrels of oil and 50 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. the president ordered the report earlier in month and will outline his plans for the country's energy security in a speech wednesday. a massive discrimination lawsuit in the nation's highest court. that's next here on "special
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>> bret: the supreme court began hearing arguments today in one of america's largest discrimination lawsuits. involving about half a million women at wal-mart correspondent shannon bream
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reports on that and some of the bigger questions surrounding this case. >> wal-mart may be a big company, that is no doubt. but they're not big enough where they can't be challenged d in a court of law. >> reporter: betty dukes says her years working for wal-mart were marked by sex discrimination as she was passed over for pay increases and promotion. a handful of other female employees joined her lawsuit and now want to extrapolate their claim to a class action that some estimate could grow to include 1.5 million. with critics point out would result in a much bigger payoff for trial lawyers involved, whether they settle the case or ultimately win it. today, the supreme court heard from both sides about whether it's legally appropriate to create what could be the largest employment law claus action in history. justice elena kagan said, "all that the claimants have to demonstrate is that there is a practice, policy of subjectively that on the whole results in discrimination against women." but there were times when it
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wasn't clear exactly what the plaintiffs were arguing. their attorney said both the store managers were given complete discretion to make promotion decisions, but ultimately the company as a whole across thousands of stores were somehow condoning discrimination. justice antonin scalia asked "on the one hand you say the problem is that they were ultimateerly subjective. on the other hand -- utterly subjective and on the other hand you say there is a strong corporate culture that guides all of this. weal, which is it?" when the attorney said the company gave the local managers autonomy and told them how to exercise it, justice scalia responded, "if somebody tells you how to exercise discretion you don't have discretion." the ninth circuit has already certified the class action but wal-mart's legal team is optimistic the supreme court will dismantle it. >> the lawyers on the other side went too far when they tried to sweep every person in the country, every woman in the country in this class. >> reporter: win or lose, this case is far from over for
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wal-mart. some of the original plaintiffs say even if it doesn't proceed as a class action, they intend to sue as individuals. bret? >> shannon bream live at the supreme court. thank you. there is another major discrimination suit taking place right now. the justice department is suing on behalf of a muslim math teacher who was not allowed to take vacation time during the school year for a pilgrimage to mecca. correspondent doug mckelway looks into the meaning of religious liberty in the workplace, and whether this suit's motives are legal or political. >> mcarthur middle school in illinois is under fire from the justice department for alleged discrimination in august of 2008, teacher sephora kahn asked for three weeks off in september to attend the muslim pilgrimage to meca the school refused. she resigned. the department of justice is suing the school board. and the case is rapidly becoming a battleground over accommodating religious freedom. >> i'm a christian and i don't believe there is anything in my faith that says i get three weeks off to observe easter.
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>> this is strikingly similar to a case brought by the bush administration in 2007. >> the case first went to the equal employment opportunity commission which ruled in kahn's favor and found no evidence that her absence would impose "undue hardship on the school" as law requires in such cases as this. it referred the case to the d.o.j. >> she is asking for unpaid leave. that means they didn't have to pay her for the three weeks she was going to be out. and they gave, she gave them three months for which to prepare. >> a former bush era justice department civil rights lawyer believes the suit is political, designed to placate muslims. >> i think w goingoing on here is you have radical idealogues inhabiting the professional position inside the justice department. >> one constitutional law professor says american history is full of requests.
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>> they are the same kind of rights generally speaking that other religious groups have. >> a key factor may be whether the case will consider undue hardship to consider not only financial and staffing issues for extended period of time but the effect of the absence on students in washington, doug mckelway, fox news. >> bret: there are violations of the federal act that is requiring timely reporting of campus crime. interim justice department probe found no evidence of political interference in the decision to settle voter intimidation case brought against three members of the black panther party. congressional republicans had long sought a probe in the mooter, in which three men were initially said to have voter intimidation outside polling place. the house judiciary committee launched it own investigation into the matter.
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george clooney is called to testify on behalf of a famous person that he barely knows. and some federal employees get caught trying to scourge a new
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executive service received raises just before president obama's proposed federal pay freeze was supposed to go into effect. but those same execs already received pay hikes in january last year. which violates the one raise per year rule. the president of the senior executives association one level below political appointees said, "i don't think there was anything tenacious about it -- nefarious about it." she said the employees would give up raises for the rest of the year but would not be required to repay money they received. the f.d.a. is considering legal actions. venezuelan president hugo chavez received a journalism award from an argentinean university for people without a voice giving access to the media. chases accepted the award from a university while in argentina for meeting with that country's president. but the president of the inter-american press association says chavez is a
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"clear enemy" of freedom of the press. it would take a long time to enumerate the long chain of actions that chavez has taken against the right of the venezuelan people to rereceive information." chavez has been criticized for shutting down dozen of radio stations as well as a popular antigovernment television station. chavez says venezuela has "absolute freedom to criticize, absolute freedom of thought, absolute freedom of expression." italian prime minister silvio berlusconi wants a hollywood contact to help at his upcoming trial on charges of sex with an underage prostitute. actor george clooney is one of 78 witnesses suggested by the italian premier. clooney and his girlfriend were said to have been at one of berlusconi's parties, which was also attended by the teenage prostitute. clooney says, "it seems odd that i've only met berlusconi once. that was in an attempt to get
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aid into darfur." our top story at the bottom of the hour, pentagon officials say the u.s. has spent more than a half million dollars so far on the libyan conflict. the president made a robust case for humanitarian intervention during his speech last night while contrasting the effort to some of those waged by his predecessors. white house correspondent mike emanuel looks at the so-called "obama doctrine" as well as the comparisons he made between this conflict and the ones in bosnia and iraq. >> reporter: in making his case to the nation for using force in libya, president obama argued america has an important strategic interest in keeping muammar gaddafi from crushing his opponents. >> confronted by this brutal repression, and a looming humanitarian crisis, i ordered warships into the mediterranean. >> reporter: while some critics say the united states should have created a no-fly zone sooner, mr. obama said the u.s. acted quickly and made this historical
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comparison. >> when people were being brutalized in bosnia in the 1990s, it took the international community more than a year to intervene with air power to protect civilians. it took us 31 days. >> reporter: in the balkans, there were humanitarian concerns when tens of thousands of bosnian muslims were either killed or forced to flee by slobodan milosevic. today, an official continued the milosevic comparison. >> it was many months, in fact, over a year before he stepped down from power. that mission was a success. the mission thus far to protect civilians and establish a no-fly zone has gone as we intended. >> one expert says the problem the u.s. had in the balkans was it was difficult to distinguish different groups living close together. >> later in the war as the population tragically had been cleanseed and separated it was actually easier to defend the people who wanted the help to defend. it was a cleaner front line. >> reporter: there were humanitarian concerns in iraq
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when saddam hussein's forces in 1990 invaded neighboring kuwait. last night, mr. obama made comparisons to the more recent iraq war. >> regime change there took eight years. thousands of american and iraqi lives and nearly $1 trillion. that's not something we can afford to repeat in libya. >> secretary gates said libya is not vital national interest to the u.s. but former official says there were national interest at stake in iraq such as suspected weapons of mass destruction. libya may be more significant for allies in europe. mr. obama said when president bush said saddam hussein had to go, the coalition didn't support that. >> he said he cannot achieve that and then he looks weak. he should not, it's a bad thing when the united states leaders look weak in the middle east.
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>> in 2003, iraq war, there were 48 countrys. the original country, there were more than 30 countries. balkans is there were 28. >> bret: mike emanuel, live on the north lawn. thank you. who are the rebels if libya and what is next there? with the pam. as well as the resignation of syrian president cabinet and whether that will appease the protesters there. the fox all-stars are next. @@
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no formal decision has been made by the united states to arm the opposition. >> we do not have any specific information about specific individuals from any organization who are part of this, but of course we're still getting to know those who are leading the transitional national council. >> our goal in libya is that
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gaddafi must go. it's the right goal. but let's be honest with ourselves. we're talking about regime change. whether the president wants to call it that or not. >> bret: well, secretary of state clinton in london meeting with the united nations partners and also partners in the arab league to sketch out end game in libya. what was not discussed she said is arming rebels in libya. meantime, as you look at a map. gaddafi forces managed to repel rebel attacks on the dictator home township of sirte, the coastal city in between benghazi and tripoli. we can tell you in the last 24 hours, 22 tomahawk missiles fired in the last 24 hours. 214 over the entire mission so far. let's bring in the panel. steve hayes, senior writer for stand stand. mara liasson, national political correspondent of national public radio. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. steve, what about this talk of arming the rebels, not arming the rebels, who the rebels are?
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>> yeah, well, it wasn't discussed in london, it's certainly discussed quite a bit in washington, both in public and private. there is a probust debate taking place right now inside the administration whether it would be wise to arm the rebels and as you suggested, who exactly the rebels are. there have been reports that there are al-qaeda elements that are working with the rebels, if not leading the rebels. the administration twice today described those as, quote/unquote, flickers of al-qaeda. in the rebels. but i think at this point, it looks like given all the information we have, that is all that it is at this point. it would be a mistake for people to assume that al-qaeda who we fought in afghanistan and iraq is leading the opposition, libya. that does not seem to be the case at this point. it's certainly worrisome that you have the elements taking up arms against the people that we're fighting. >> bret: mara, did the president answer the questions that critical lawmakers were seeking to have him answer with that speech last night? >> i think the president laid out a very clear case for why
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intervening militarily in libya was in the u.s. moral and strategic interest. what he didn't explain, which is what people of both sides, both parties in congress have been clamoring for him to do number one, exactly what we're willing to do to get rid of gaddafi, because that is one of his goals. number two, what exactly the end state in libya looks like. today, an air force one as the president went up to new york for some event including some rundraisers, jay carney said the end state is when the libyan people can choose their own leader. okay. but there is a long way to go between now and then. and what exactly are we willing to do to get rid of gaddafi? the president ruled out ground troops and they have not ruled out arming rebels, as steve explained. today, hillary clinton said the u.n. resolution doesn't ban that. in other words, it's legal to do it if the allies decided to do it. >> bret: you mentioned the ruling out of ground troops. there was testimony today op that very sunt. whether ground troops would be needed on the ground,
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post-gaddafi, whatever that would be. take a listen. >> there is the possibility that through many possible outcomes of the gaddafi regime, departmenting swiftly, or rebels egypting it. that there would be a need for some stabilization on the ground. is that something that nato is considering? >> i think when you look at the history of nato having gone through this, as many of the committee have with bosnia and kosovo, it's clear that the possibility of a stabilization regime exists. >> bret: that is admiral stavridis, the head of the european command and thereby the head of the supreme allied commander, head of the nato forces. saying it's possible that nato forces might have to be on the ground. >> it's possible. it depends on what your analogy is. if your analogy is the balkans where after the war we had, we had and have nato on the
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ground, it's okay. because there is no active resistance. the iraq analogy is a different one in which we had our forces in iraq after the toppling of the government. there was eight years of resistance. nobody knows which way it will turn out in iraq. the incoherence and the disingenuous of the talk of the end game here is appalling. obama himself had said gaddafi has to go. then he gives a speech last night. in which he says regime change is not a military objective. then a day later in london, a dispatch from the new york times -- "new york times," contracted a bit, the leaders of the countrys meeting in london today made clear that the nato-led military operation in libya would end only with the removal of gaddafi. which contradicts what the president said last night. and all of this is -- [ inaudible ] we aren't even near the end game. we're in the middle game here.
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as you indicated the rebels aren't just thwarted at the gates of sirte. they have been thrown back, lost two towns today. ras lanouf. the second time they lost the oil depot, oil port in one week. i tells you that the rebels without close air support are no match for gaddafi. so to speak of an end game in which gaddafi is now on the march is obsurd. >> bret: i should point out that vice president biden was asked by a producer today what the end game in libya would look like and he said, "the end game is ending right now." his office said he was talking about the press availability at that time. but the administration clearly thinks it's coming to an end. >> look, days of the operation where we're in charge is coming to an end. end game is something that the critics are talking about they want them to describe the
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end game in crystal clerty. he can't except to say we want gaddafi to go. the u.n. doesn't authorize us to use force to get him out. now there is no doubt that the force that is being used is going to help get him out because it's arming and assisting the rebels. >> why are the rebels retreating? >> because it's hard and it will take a long time. do you think nato isn't helping the rebels? they're in a heck of a lot better position now than they were before. >> yes, but with yesterday, that they're going the wrong way. they're going east instead of west. >> bret: steve, last word. >> the speech last night the president was fundamentally disingenuous in that he talked about the u.s. leadership in the last month. that's something the u.s. didn't provide. we had abdocation of leader ship. he ended up in the right place, making a case for what we've done and what we have to do. any talk of specifics of an end game can't happen because we don't know what is coming. >> he is trying to wage a half war and it won't succeed. full war or no war.
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>> think he should put ground troops there? >> no. but if he has a serious air war and not have rebels retreat day after taking two towns and heading east because of the absence of air support. >> bret: we're going to review that whole last word thing after the commercial. is a government shutdown becoming inevitable? becoming inevitable? the markets never stop moving. of course, neither do i. solution: td ameritrade mobile. i can enter trades. on the run. even futures and forex. complex options? done. the market shifts... i get an alert. thank you.
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i always use the word "extreme." that's what the caucus instructed me to do the other week. exdream cuts and all these riders. boehner is in a box. but if supports the tea party, there is going to be inevitably a shutdown. what we're trying to do here. >> instead of them issuing marching orders maybe what they should do is get to work and actually pass a plan.
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>> bret: okay. senator chuck schumer was on a condition france call today, thought he was just talking to his colleagues, fellow senators but the call also had reporters. on at the same time. that is when it was cut off. that's what you heard. also today, former democratic presidential candidate howard dean said this -- from a partisan point of view i think it would be the best thing in the world to have a shutdown. meaning a government shutdown. "if i was head of dnc i'd be quietly rooting for it. i know who is going to be blamed. we've been down this road before." well, we have little more than a week left before the deadline is here. back with the panel. charles? >> it's clear at two levels the democrats decided they're not going to make any serious cuts. and they are going to wage the coming campaign of 2012 on the issue of cuts. they are going to make the republicans look like extremists. this is a word that schumer has been instructed he has to use all the time. and the president at one level
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in the budget he gave next year's made no cuts at all. of any seriousness in attempt at tax reform or entitlement reform. he is waiting for republicans to counter. with a budget that has cuts. he's going to attack and here schumer is doing it on the level of the small cuts in continuing resolution. >> bret: are we bound for a government shutdown? >> i certainly hope not. but i mean at this point, you don't see progress at all. we only have until next friday there are no more temporary's crsin anybody's back pocket. >> bret: continuing resolution. >> yeah they finished with those. the thing that is interesting of the two played howard dean is more damaging. chuck schumer sounds like what he always says only he said here are my talking points and he said them. what is interesting is the democrats were getting ready to accept somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 billion of cuts for this year. that is what john boehner started with before his tea party freshmen said you have to go more. so until we heard the talking
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points, talking point gate, whatever we're talking that, it's as if john -- this budget battle could come out with john boehner being the huge winner in other words, we might have the john boehner budget in the end if he can get enough republicans to support him. >> bret: steve? >> republicans would say however they never got that offer there is talk about them getting that offer but the offer was never received. >> i think that's what the democrats are said to do. >> bret: nobody put it on paper. >> nobody put it on paper. >> that's right. >> i think the democrats want a shutdown for a couple of reasons. primarily, we'll have huge debates about bigger issues later and they think if they set the republicans up on coming debate on debt limit and the 2012 budget, by having a government shutdown now, they can use the small cuts which, you know, five or $10 billion, everybody agrees who wants to limit government that takes cut if you can get them. you're talking about $40 to $45 billion in the discussion of the short-term budget where you are going to be talking about trillions of dollars in savings over the long-term when paul ryan puts out an
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aggressive budget within a couple of weeks. >> bret: quickly, we are approaching the debt ceiling limit. we're now at $14, more than $14 trillion in our debt which is not a battle. >> that's why democrats want to shut down, set it up, blame the republicans and have them on the defensive in all debates including on the debt limit. >> bret: that is it for the panel. stay tuned for another edition to the libyan coalition.
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>> bret: finally tonight the ongoing operation in libya has coalition member contributing in its own way. some members are more powerful than others. >> in the meantime muammar qaddafi says he will not back down. he tell as crowd of supporters he will defeat the coalition. the coalition is growing. spain is supplying submarines.

Special Report With Bret Baier
FOX News March 30, 2011 4:00am-5:00am EDT

News/Business. Bret Baier. The latest news from inside the Beltway.

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